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	<title>Comments on: Hawai‘i Loa Ridge</title>
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	<description>Life in Honolulu: it's not all pineapples and mai tais.</description>
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		<title>By: Allen Hoof</title>
		<link>http://www.hawaiistories.com/eric/2005/03/06/hawaii-loa-ridge/#comment-3024</link>
		<author>Allen Hoof</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beginning in 1996, I've hiking this trail many times with family and friends.  I've never had a problem getting past security, but I am always required to provide some personal info.  As to denial of access, I suppose there are two sides to the argument, as there are in most such issues, which is why lawyers can earn a living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beginning in 1996, I&#8217;ve hiking this trail many times with family and friends.  I&#8217;ve never had a problem getting past security, but I am always required to provide some personal info.  As to denial of access, I suppose there are two sides to the argument, as there are in most such issues, which is why lawyers can earn a living.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.hawaiistories.com/eric/2005/03/06/hawaii-loa-ridge/#comment-50</link>
		<author>Eric</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JJ, it appears that the government negotiated this access procedure with the developer when the subdivision was built. A few years ago, the same thing happened to some tourists, who then &lt;a href="http://starbulletin.com/1999/12/02/news/story9.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;sued&lt;/a&gt;. Unfortunately, &lt;a href="http://starbulletin.com/2002/01/09/news/story10.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;their case was dismissed&lt;/a&gt; for lack of standing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ, it appears that the government negotiated this access procedure with the developer when the subdivision was built. A few years ago, the same thing happened to some tourists, who then <a href="http://starbulletin.com/1999/12/02/news/story9.html" rel="nofollow">sued</a>. Unfortunately, <a href="http://starbulletin.com/2002/01/09/news/story10.html" rel="nofollow">their case was dismissed</a> for lack of standing.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://www.hawaiistories.com/eric/2005/03/06/hawaii-loa-ridge/#comment-49</link>
		<author>JJ</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2005 11:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to go to the trail once but the security at the bottom of the hill wouldn't let me in unless I was living there or a guest of someone living there. My friend tried and was able to pass the security, but only after showing a valid ID and giving personal information like phone number, address etc.

My question:
1) Can the community at Hawaii Loa prevent access to a State trail?
2) Can the community demand personal information to access the Sate trail?

Please let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to go to the trail once but the security at the bottom of the hill wouldn&#8217;t let me in unless I was living there or a guest of someone living there. My friend tried and was able to pass the security, but only after showing a valid ID and giving personal information like phone number, address etc.</p>
<p>My question:<br />
1) Can the community at Hawaii Loa prevent access to a State trail?<br />
2) Can the community demand personal information to access the Sate trail?</p>
<p>Please let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard (Rick) Palmer</title>
		<link>http://www.hawaiistories.com/eric/2005/03/06/hawaii-loa-ridge/#comment-47</link>
		<author>Richard (Rick) Palmer</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2005 07:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As "Rick the Botanist", Eric's co-worker, I'll now provide the scientific names of the plants pictured.  Scientific names, by convention, are either in italics or underlined.

&lt;table&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=2&gt;From the top:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;‘Ulei&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;Osteomeles anthylidifolium&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;Pukiawe&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;Styphelia tamehameha&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;‘Iliahi&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;Santalum freycinetianum&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;Maile&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;Alyxia oliviformes&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;‘Ohi‘a Lehua&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;Metrosideros polymorpha&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;the lobelia&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;Cyanea angustifolia&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;‘Ilima&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sida fallax&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=2&gt;Other native Hawaiian plants seen, but not pictured above, include:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;Halapepe&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pleomele sp.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;‘Ohi‘a ha&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;Syzygium sandwicensis&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;Loulu&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pritchardia martii&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;‘Uki ‘uki&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dianella sandwicensis&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;Ko‘oko‘olau&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bidens sp.&lt;/em&gt; (macrocarpa?)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;Wawae‘iole&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;Lycopodiella cernua&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;

among many others. Check out the link below for more information on and photos of native Hawaiian plants.
http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty/carr/natives.htm#Dicots  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As &#8220;Rick the Botanist&#8221;, Eric&#8217;s co-worker, I&#8217;ll now provide the scientific names of the plants pictured.  Scientific names, by convention, are either in italics or underlined.</p>
<table>
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<td colspan=2>From the top:</td>
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<td></td>
<td></td>
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<td>‘Ulei</td>
<td><em>Osteomeles anthylidifolium</em></td>
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<td>Pukiawe</td>
<td><em>Styphelia tamehameha</em></td>
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<td>‘Iliahi</td>
<td><em>Santalum freycinetianum</em></td>
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<td>Maile</td>
<td><em>Alyxia oliviformes</em></td>
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<td>‘Ohi‘a Lehua</td>
<td><em>Metrosideros polymorpha</em></td>
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<td>the lobelia</td>
<td><em>Cyanea angustifolia</em></td>
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<td>‘Ilima</td>
<td><em>Sida fallax</em></td>
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<tr>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan=2>Other native Hawaiian plants seen, but not pictured above, include:</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
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<td>Halapepe</td>
<td><em>Pleomele sp.</em></td>
</tr>
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<td>‘Ohi‘a ha</td>
<td><em>Syzygium sandwicensis</em></td>
</tr>
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<td>Loulu</td>
<td><em>Pritchardia martii</em></td>
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<td>‘Uki ‘uki</td>
<td><em>Dianella sandwicensis</em></td>
</tr>
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<td>Ko‘oko‘olau</td>
<td><em>Bidens sp.</em> (macrocarpa?)</td>
</tr>
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<td>Wawae‘iole</td>
<td><em>Lycopodiella cernua</em></td>
</tr>
</table>
<p>among many others. Check out the link below for more information on and photos of native Hawaiian plants.<br />
<a href="http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty/carr/natives.htm#Dicots" rel="nofollow">http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/faculty/carr/natives.htm#Dicots</a></p>
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