HawaiiStories: Bush Comes to Hawaii

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Posted by helen on October 21, 2003 10:18 PM:

Depending on the time of day I will be either at work or at home during Bush's visit.

Unless of course his motorcade takes the same route as the City Express Route A while going to and from work and then I get stuck in traffic.

Posted by Glen Miyashiro on October 21, 2003 10:22 PM:

I just hope he makes it short and gets out of here before he screws up the commute too much. And I will be happy to bid him a fond aloha... in the "goodbye" sense of the word.

Posted by Ryan on October 22, 2003 8:51 AM:

Greg Kahlstorf (Pacific Wings): "It's especially appalling that they gave us less than 48 hours notice, when they knew for more than a month that this would be happening... It shows an amazing lack of concern for the people of this state."

Posted by Albert on October 22, 2003 8:52 AM:

I'm just glad he's not coming to UH-Manoa, wouldn't want to get arrested for flipping him the double bird.

Posted by Albert on October 22, 2003 8:57 AM:

Uh-oh, sounds like he might actually be coming to the East-West Center. I'll stick to the other side of the campus tomorrow. :)

Posted by ali on October 22, 2003 12:05 PM:

Somehow, I just don't think that people will be gathering on all the overpasses straining to catch a glimpse of Dubya like they did when Clinton passed through. Traffic--another reason I'm glad to live on an outer island.

Posted by Ryan on October 22, 2003 1:08 PM:

There's a great article on past presidential visits over at the Star-Bulletin. Not counting the states around D.C., we have a pretty good visitation track record, apparently!

Posted by Albert on October 22, 2003 1:25 PM:

"There's a great article on past presidential visits over at the Star-Bulletin."

Yep, good newspaper article. I could be wrong, but I think this particular visitation will meet with less enthusiasm than some in the past. S'far as I am concerned, it definitely should.

Posted by Jon on October 22, 2003 1:56 PM:

As if the economy isn't bad enough, The Man has to come down here and screw up traffic and stall commerce for us.

Must be that "trickle-down economics" I've heard so much about.

Posted by James on October 22, 2003 2:45 PM:

Ryan, I read about how they canceled all flights coming to Oahu from Molokai and I think it was Kauai with only two days notice because the flights may originate from some unsecure locations. As if a jet liner is going to crash land on the H1 in hopes of getting at Bush.

I probably shouldn't of said that. I think I hear the Secret Service.

So nobody here likes Bush?

Posted by lisa on October 22, 2003 4:06 PM:

Apparently no one who'll admit to it here, at any rate :)

I have a strong urge to show up at HHV with a sign or three, but I'll most likely skip the opportunity.

I can't wait to hear his sound bites, though.. I'm expecting one of those idiotic references that imply we're not a part of the US.

Posted by Sin on October 22, 2003 5:24 PM:

So you folks hear about the GOP shindig at the Kahala Mandarin for Bush? For the price of $10,000 PER PERSON you can hang out with the Prez for half an hour. That's roughly $333 per minute. Let's see, how would I spend $333 a minute? VEGAS BABY!!! Roulette would be easy, craps...maybe the high rollers table in Caesars. Definitely NOT to visit Bush at the K.H. Wonder what island republicans can afford to go? Mike O'Neil? Joe Moore? Hmmm....

Posted by Vincent on October 22, 2003 11:41 PM:

Okay, I guess since I was the lone voice supporting the President during the anti-war thread a while ago, I'll continue my role as the sole conservative here and say that I'm glad he's stopping by.

I believe the fundraiser is $1000 per person (not $10k, which is more akin to a certain ex-President's White House coffees for Chinese spies about eight years ago...sorry, couldn't resist). And while he may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, I'm sure the President isn't coming here for a love fest. After all, this state's been unkind to Republicans in general (save Linda Lingle, but what has she really done anyway?), so he's just in for a photo op and some quick cash. Nothing wrong with that.

As for the traffic, I doubt this visit will be any more disruptive than previous ones. Shoot, sprinkle a little rain on the freeway and you cause far, far more trouble than a presidential motorcade, right...??

Posted by James on October 23, 2003 12:09 AM:

Earlier tonight I was watching Bush's address to the Australian Parliament. It was actually quite moving. Who writes his speeches? I knew these words did not come from the brain or heart of good old Dubya. But he is getting much better at reading his speeches, he actually sounds as if he knows what he's talking about.

It was very entertaining, every now and then a Senator or Parliament member would start shouting and interrupt the President. He would just smile and give the camera a 'wink' while the men were removed from the floor.

Oh, that Texas Charm.

Posted by Albert on October 23, 2003 8:50 AM:

"Like?"

Let's see, at one end of the scale is love, admire, respect, etc., and at the other end despite, loathe, detest ...

For me, Bush2 is off the scale of the "other end".

But yes, he does have some very good speech writers whose work often manages to survive despite his horrendous speaking mannerisms.

Posted by Mitchell on October 23, 2003 11:31 AM:

Now, Victor, the fact that you appear to be the sole person here who is glad the President is stopping by and who supported his position on the war in Iraq is no reason to assume you are the "sole conservative" hanging out here. I consider myself very conservative--so conservative in the governmental realm, in fact, that I have voted Libertarian in the last several elections.

Dislike for President Bush and disagreement with his decision to go to war do not make me non-conservative.

Posted by Glen Miyashiro on October 23, 2003 12:13 PM:

Vincent, it wasn't a typo. The Bush fundraiser really is $10,000 a person. I wonder if the papers can get a list of who will be attending?

Posted by Linkmeister on October 23, 2003 3:15 PM:

And one of Gov. Lingle's priorities while talking to him is to get him to push for the Akaka bill. Good luck. The SOB wouldn't even push for Americorps, even though he "said" he wanted to expand it.

If I wanted to count the number of lies, misrepresentations, and policy reversals this clown has committed, I'd have to use a number homonymically similar to a favorite search engine.

Posted by Sin on October 23, 2003 4:34 PM:

Sheesh, you guys doubted me about the $10,000 per ticket thing? Here it is from the Star Bulletin:

"President Bush's first visit to Hawaii tomorrow since assuming office will be brief -- about 12 hours -- and heavy on GOP fund-raising, including a $10,000-a-ticket event to benefit the state Republican Party."

And while I have no love for Bush( and was upset the Vince didn't believe me about the price of his Kahala fundraiser) I will agree with him that his stop-over shouldn't be a problem. He'll be in and out and I doubt we'll even notice he was here except for the fact that it'll be all over the local news today and in the papers tomorrow.

But back to my original question: would you pay $10,000 for half an hour with the prez? What does that get you? I'm assuming that since the money goes towards the local GOP it means some local "benefits" for corporate bigwigs. The question is, what kind of benefits can you get for $10,000 in Hawaii?

Posted by James on October 23, 2003 5:37 PM:

Link, Please do count and show us some examples of Bush's lies and misrepresentations.

How about "No Child Left Behind?"

Posted by Linkmeister on October 23, 2003 9:04 PM:

How about funding No Child Left Behind? How about Americorps? How about "imminent threat from Saddam" and "nuclear capability in Iraq? How about "average American will get $1000 in tax cuts?"

You get my drift?

Posted by Vincent on October 23, 2003 10:13 PM:

Guess that's what I get for being the lone Bush supporter.

Sorry, Sin, for the mix-up. It wasn't that I doubted you. But when you originally said "shindig for Bush", I was thinking of the Bush fundraiser at the Hilton, which is definitely not $10k per person since that would violate campaign spending rules. The private party at the Kahala (where it is indeed $10k per person) isn't a fundraiser for the president but for the local Republican party. So I stand corrected for misreading (or misunderstanding) your statement that the Kahala shindig was "for Bush."

"Dislike for Bush", "horrendous speaking mannerisms," and "idiotic references," startle me a bit in that these seem aimed more at the man and not the policies (save Jon's crack about "trickle down economics.").

And honestly, there isn't a single President in the last thirty years that hasn't broken a campaign promise, reversed a policy, or misrepresented something to the public. People see what they've already decided they're going to see.

Posted by James on October 24, 2003 12:31 AM:

The Presidential Motorcade came roaring down Waialae past the Kahala Zippy's around 7 PM tonight. Half the restaurant was pressed against the windows or standing outside watching. I even found some time to step outside and snap a few photo's as they all came by. They were driving pretty fast.

Posted by Sin on October 24, 2003 4:19 PM:

The Secret Service took the most screwed up route from the Mandarin to Hilton yesterday. I jumped on Kahala Ave and hit Ala Wai then took a left and BAM, I was there. The President ended up taking H-1 then going down Punahou and got there about 20 minutes later. That's probably where James saw them zoom past Zippy's. Somehow I guess they thought it was a safer route for Bush. A friend of mine pointed out that someone could easily plant bombs and blow up all the cars parked along side the Ala Wai as the President's motorcade drove by. Guess I just don't have a mind for Presidential Security.

As for "Bush"izims, there were only a few I noticed during his speech, really minor. He butchered Lt. Gov. Aiona's name, that' was kinda funny. And he made this weird remark. First he said "Hawaii's got a great governor!!!" and then almost as an afterthought he added, "And I've got a great wife!" It was just...odd I guess.

I thought his speech was almost a repeat of his State of the Union address. War on terror, help for AIDS victims, education, yadda yadda yadda. What was funny is you could hear the applause level go up and down for certain subjects. Stuff like the No Child Left Behind Act generated lots of applause and hooting and hollering. However the War on Terror was more like a polite golf clap. Especially after he said "Terrorists have declared war on America, and war is what they got." I wouldn't say it was strained applause, more like a "Ahhh, that's nice, next subject please." kind of response.

Oh yeah and I saw all the Secret Service guys that stayed back after the president left last night at Scruples Nighclub watching the bikini contest. Glad they finally had a chance to unwind and get out of their suits.

Posted by lisa on October 24, 2003 4:21 PM:

James, you might find this interesting: http://truthout.org/docs_03/102203A.shtml

It's more focused on Iraq/war lies, but it's an interesting piece.

Posted by aaron wall on October 26, 2003 6:44 PM:

i would not be interested in much of what bush does...unless he would do the one thing he should...the one thing which is inevitalbe

Posted by James on October 26, 2003 8:32 PM:

What is that Aaron?

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